Posts by Island Man

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Challenge to Creationists

by cofty in

in response to the 37 threads in my evolution is a fact series - see bottom of op for links - perry posted a link to an article "44 reasons why evolution isn't true".. i offered him a challenge on the thread and by pm.

predictably he is totally ignoring it, so i am offering the challenge to any evolution-denier who thinks they have evidence to support their position.. please present one specific piece of evidence for creationism.. my task will be to refute it with evidence within 24 hours.. then i will present one piece of evidence for evolution and your challenge will be the same.. all posts must be as succinct as reasonably possible.

entirely in your own words, without copy-paste, videos or links.. please post your interest to take part and we will set it up before the first actual post in the exchange.

Island Man

As of right now I have to agree with Vidgun, there is no evidence that we can replicate life or create it from scratch to then one must entertain the idea that life was deposited here on earth from somewhere and it then evolved.

Caveman living 10,000 years ago arguing with another cave man: As of right now I have to agree with Lionheart, there is no evidence that we can replicate flight or create a functioning pair of wings from scratch so then one must entertain the idea that flight is not a natural process but pure magic.

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The last video in the 2016 convention...

by problemaddict 2 in

...is an epic triumph is emotional manipulation.

bringing together all of the stories they told thus far and placing them int he "new world" complete with the little boy who was killed in a car accident coming back from the dead.. i have a good friend who is stuck in with family and plays the role.

he said everyone was crying, and the people next to him rated the videos by how many tissues they needed to dry their eyes.

Island Man

I don't find it all that emotional. But I'm curious as to what the vocalists are singing in the musical score.

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Lett facial ticks from a stroke/aneurysm?

by azor in

jw
friends

i was speaking to my mom the other day.

she stays in the group to retain a relationship with the rest of our in family.

she told me that she heard from one of my brothers that the reason lett makes all those weird facial gestures has something to do with a stroke or aneurysm when he was a younger man.

Island Man

JWs will say just about anything - however silly or untrue - to defend their manipulative organization and its questionable leaders.

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Demon possesion, bunch of crap or?

by raven in

i've been using the forum to vent and post a lot more frequently lately as a venting purpose & way to obtain peace of mind with the craziness i've been going through recently as i fade away form the org.

anyways today i'm sitting here at work and thinking to myself about demons... ok i know this sounds crazy but has anyone else out there been traumatized by the thought of demons?

i had a dream the other night, just flat out spooky and i woke and couldn't help but feeling it may have been evil ole' satan and his demons at it again.. i don't want to believe that, (trying not to, & just brushing it under the rug so to speak) but have any of you out there been talked up about demons?

Island Man

zeb: I have had demonic experiences.

I believe you have had experiences that you erroneously interpreted as demonic.

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New DNA Study Confirms Noah

by notsurewheretogo in

http://www.icr.org/article/9325/.

amazing read...go on , have a laugh if you want to.. new dna study confirms noah.

by brian thomas, m.s.

Island Man

The difference between science and religion is that science is always curious, always seeking answers, always following the evidence regardless of where it leads. Religion, on the other hand, is closed-minded, certain in its claims, seeking preservation of its claims, always denying and refusing evidence that contradict its claims.

Science is the pursuit of truth. Religion is the preservation of superstitious traditions at all costs. Science embraces scrutiny - thrives on scrutiny. Religion dreads scrutiny because it cannot stand up to scrutiny because it is not about the pursuit of truth.

Science starts with a question, develops a hypothesis then experiments to prove and disprove the hypothesis to determine if it has merit. Religion starts with an answer, then cherry-picks information and twist it to support its answer, while ignoring, discrediting and even forbidding the consideration of facts that contradict its answer.

Religion is foolish, backward, self-perpetuating delusion. Science is the actual pursuit of actual truth.

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JW Video Armageddon to occur before 2040

by Listener in

sorry i thought it was a new morning worship video but it is 6 months old and has already been discussed on here.. it is presented by gb helper k flodin and about this generation.

the delusion and hypocrisy runs deep.. he reminds the cult members not to speculate because they aren't supposed to know the day or the hour.

then he proceeds to speculate that armageddon will occur before 2040.. https://tv.jw.org/#en/video/vodprogramsevents/pub-jwbmw_201511_3_video.

Island Man

Notice too that Flodin is being used as the fall-guy. If this idea takes root and similar hype and disillusionment results as with 1975, then the GB can always deny having ever taught such a date and say a rogue individual - Flodin - taught this, because the date was never suggested by an actual GB member.

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May 21, 2016 TO ALL CONGREGATIONS Re: Annual Items for 2017

by wifibandit in

may 21, 2016 to all congregations re: annual items for 2017.

Island Man

I can hear some uber-paranoid doomsday dubs now:

"What, no calendar for 2017! That can only mean . . . [gasp] . . . the end is . . . is . . . a blink of an eye away! They system will not last till 2017!!!"

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Beliefs About What Caused the Universe

by Perry in

the universe can be observed to be expanding.. an expanding universe must have had a beginning.

whatever begins to exist had a cause.

therefore the universe had a cause.

Island Man

"Why is there something rather than nothing?"

Maybe it is physically impossible for nothing to exist - for there to ever be absolutely nothing. Maybe existence is the fundamental pillar of reality itself.

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Jehovah Witness vs Jehovah's Witness

by Simon in

being brought up as a jehovah's witness means you are so used to the term that you rarely stop to think about it.. one thing i've noticed is that people unfamiliar with the religion will say "jehovah witness" (no 's) instead which i always found a bit grating.. but watching the us election, something struck me.

people are often referred to as "trump supporters", not "trump's supporters" and so on.

thinking about other things, people would say they were "united fan's", not "united's fans" and so on.. it seems weird that a group would refer to themselves as though it was someone else talking about them (in the 3rd person, if i have that right).. what do you think?

Island Man

"I am a trump supporter" is correct because trump is the object of the support. But saying "I am a Jehovah witness" is incorrect because Jehovah is not the object of the witnessing - JWs don't witness Jehovah.

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Jehovah Witness vs Jehovah's Witness

by Simon in

being brought up as a jehovah's witness means you are so used to the term that you rarely stop to think about it.. one thing i've noticed is that people unfamiliar with the religion will say "jehovah witness" (no 's) instead which i always found a bit grating.. but watching the us election, something struck me.

people are often referred to as "trump supporters", not "trump's supporters" and so on.

thinking about other things, people would say they were "united fan's", not "united's fans" and so on.. it seems weird that a group would refer to themselves as though it was someone else talking about them (in the 3rd person, if i have that right).. what do you think?

Island Man

Think too of how the term witness is used in the court. They don't say so-and-so is a prosecution witness. They say so-and-so is a witness for the prosecution because the prosecution is not the object of the act of witnessing in the same way that Trump is the object of people's support.